One bad thing, one VERY good
Oct. 28th, 2011 11:59 amSo is anyone on my f-list actually experiencing any of the LJ fuck-ups that get reported all over the place? Or personally knows someone who does?
Because I find myself slightly puzzled. And (amusingly enough) the only people on my f-list who have so far signal-boosted about the trouble predominantly use other platforms anyway...
(Not that I'm not trusting you, or mean to imply that you want to damage LJ, or something... I'm just wondering whether anyone I know actually noticed anything untowards, or whether it's mostly an hearsay-and-dramatisation avalanche thingy. *headscratch*)
No. I'm gonna quote
I know- any one could be THE one.
But, so far, LJ has never actually screwed me, but the "leave LJ NOW!" scares have......
And it's true. And then I'll have to either run after yet more people who migrated to where-ever. And let's face it, that only happens when I remember to do it. Or even if I am dedicated enough to check a variable amount of journals in other places every day, I may not be able to read stuff there because not all platforms allow easy Open-ID access, or the people often can't be, I dunno, bothered to friend their LJ-ex-friends' Open-ID ID. So in effect, you loose touch. Or you're forced to migrate as well, which I personally am loath to do - not just because of my permanent account here (although that is totally part of the reason), but also because I already have a nice network here that I for my part don't want to loose. So no, if you leave, I won't follow. I'll just stand on the pier, waving sadly, and hope you'll x-post to LJ (as some people on my f-list fortunately do), or otherwise allow us sorry folks who are not members of the sanctified other blogging platform to read your entries anyway...
I have to admit that by now I actively despise Dreamwidth. The Germans among you will probably know the commercials for the ERGO insurance company: That's what Dreamwidth reminds me of. "WE'RE DOING THE EXACT SAME THING AS ANY OTHER INSURANCE/BLOGGING PLATFORM! BUT WE'RE DIFFERENT! BETTER! BECAUSE WE CARE! WE UNDERSTAND! LOVE US! FOLLOW US!" Makes me automatically suspicious.* For the non-Germans: Um, I've never actually seen an episode of V - The Visitors, but from the trailers, it looks like the same principle.
On a smaller scale, naturally. I'm not that paranoid. Just slightly irrational. ;)
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In completely different and MUCH more positive news: OMG
I sniffled. And I hearted. <3
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*I'm still trying to figure out how ERGO can afford being as nice as they promise. Either there are a lot of loopholes in the small print so they don't actually have to deliver when push comes to shove, or else the whole insurance thing is just a front to win followers in order to take over the world or something. No, seriously. Who said "If it appears too good to be true, that's probably because it is"? Whoever it was, THIS.
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Date: 2011-10-28 10:08 am (UTC)Und ich hab einen Dreamwidth-Account, nutze ihn aber nicht. Mir ist LJ genug.
Es ist ganz gut zu wissen, dass man einen Ausweichplan hat, wenn hier wirklich mal was Größere nimmer funktioniert. Aber bis dahin poste ich alles, was ich posten will lieber hier als anderswo.
Inzwischen hab ich zwar auch einen Facebook-Account - aber das nur, damit ich unseren Vereins-Account anschaun kann *G*
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Date: 2011-10-28 11:17 am (UTC)But one thing is clear, when people you interact with online on a regular basis discover a new platform of choice (no matter if it's a blogging or microblogging thing), you quickly discover how invested they are in the connection you share. That way I've had to realise that a quite a few people I used to regard as good online friends really don't give a rat's arse about me ... and eventually I stop reaching out to them, too.
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Date: 2011-10-28 11:30 am (UTC)Bisher konnte ich den Ärger gut umgehen, indem ich durch DW auf LJ crossposte. Aber das kann's ja irgendwie auch nicht sein, zumal ich für alle meine LJs zahle. Bäh.
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Date: 2011-10-28 01:38 pm (UTC)Of course skinny dipping is canon. Cute!
;)
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Date: 2011-10-28 02:03 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-28 02:35 pm (UTC)I stay primarily because it's so hard to find other people elsewhere but I live in fear that something serious will happen (more DOS trouble, or something of that ilk -- and it will come, that sort of things never goes away) and I will not only lose all my posts but everything else. :(
Not that I trust DW any more than I do lj but so far they haven't had the DOS issues yet. But something will happen there too, eventually. Like I said, it always does.
My apologies for being so cynical.
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Date: 2011-10-28 03:10 pm (UTC)I don't plan on moving. My DW is for backup, but I haven't even bothered to import my entries there. Plus, LJ at least works for me. Ever since DW updated their code one or two months ago, the only page that loads reliably is my reading list and the only way I can log in is by going to a journal that has one of those age filter/warning things because it's the only thing with a log-in bar that'll load. I'll go read over there, but until LJ really screws up/implodes, I'm staying here. (And so much for the vaunted DW community-- I opened a support ticket about my problem immediately after I noticed it wasn't a transient problem, and no one's gotten back to me. Yes, I use an older browser, but even an "I'm sorry; we can't do anything" would be nice.)
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Date: 2011-10-28 03:18 pm (UTC)WinterSommerRund-ums-Jahrschlaf liegender) Bento-Blog und das andere mein Diätblog. Ich crossposte zu LJ (einmal RSS, einmal Spiegeljournal), und die meisten meiner Freunde sind auf LJ. Insofern habe ich definitiv nicht vor, mein LJ aufzugeben, ich bin nur ohnehin chronische Lurkerin. (Ich mag DW aber - ich finde, aktiv verachten ist eine etwas starke Reaktion, wenn du keinen konkreten Grund dafür hast ^^". DW ist meiner Meinung nach nicht "zu gut, um wahr zu sein" - nur nicht die Neuerfindung des Rads. Das ist nicht unbedingt ein Verbrechen.)Dein Post war allerdings der erste, den ich über eine neue Auswanderungswelle/Probleme mit LJ gesehen habe ... Ich schätze mal, ich bin glücklich unwissend ^^.
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Date: 2011-10-28 03:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-28 05:46 pm (UTC)Und den Hype. Bezüglich "zu gut, um wahr zu sein" weiß ich ja nicht, wie viele rosarote "oh selige DW-Community, hier ist alles so toll und viel besser und ich weiß gar nicht, wo ich anfangen soll, DW und seine Features zu lobpreisen und ich möchte, dass alle meine Freunde aus dem finsteren LJ-Tal ins gelobte DW-topia pilgern"-Posts du schon lesen durftest, aber bei mir waren es einige. Das nervt dann schon. Und wie ich nun von
Das trägt alles schön dazu bei, meine Vorurteile zu nähren ;) Ich stehe dazu, irrational zu sein, jawohl!
Ich hab von dem Problem auch nur über meine Flist erfahren. Aber das ist bei manchen RL-Ereignissen auch nicht anders... *hüstel*
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Date: 2011-10-28 05:48 pm (UTC)Jedenfalls - mal schauen, wann ich mich da nicht mehr gegen sperren kann - offenbar wird ja immer mehr erwartet, dass man da einfach einen Account haben MUSS, sogar im Berufsleben...
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Date: 2011-10-28 05:50 pm (UTC)Precisely.
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Date: 2011-10-28 06:09 pm (UTC)Ich glaub halt bloß nicht, dass DW zwangsläufig immer besser ist (bzw. das alles besser wird, wenn man dahin auswandert). Offenbar haben andere Leute das Einlogg-Korrektur-Leseproblem ja umgekehrt auch bei DW... vielleicht auch da eine Server-Frage?
Naja. Crossposten finde ich dafür immer sehr nett, weil dafür ich dann nicht umziehen muss *egoist* ;)
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Date: 2011-10-28 06:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-28 06:19 pm (UTC)LJ's communication and "improvement" policies are a pain in the ass, yes. I'm just tired of the scares and drama by now, so I basically do wait until something serious happens. >_>
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Date: 2011-10-28 06:20 pm (UTC)Cute? CUTE? It's AWESOME, it is! ;)
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Date: 2011-10-28 06:24 pm (UTC)That sounds really frustrating - I've heard that people had that problem on LJ a while back (during the DoS attacks), but didn't know that the problem existed on DW too (
(And apparently it's not just LJ that does bad communication?)
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Date: 2011-10-28 06:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-28 06:56 pm (UTC)Private/flocked posts don't show up in RSS, so you can only follow what that person wants to share with the rest of the world anyway – which is why I don't think you need to feel uncomfortable about using something that's an integral part of modern websites. That, of course, is also the drawback ... you still need to have an account on the relevant platform, belong to the relevant circle or flist if you want to read flocked posts, and check for them manually.
Nothing's perfect. Things change. Etc.
But if BOTH parties involved really want to stay in touch, it's absolutely possible without a huge hassle. It starts being a pain when only one person ever makes any effort.
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Date: 2011-10-28 08:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-28 09:00 pm (UTC)I do have a DW account as a backup in case LJ disappears entirely. I did post simultaneously at Dreamwidth for a very short while during the time when I could not get onto LJ at all--about two weeks and other days since intermittently when it has not been functioning well.
I currently have trouble using LJ as a discussion forum--which I often did in the past--because I do not get comment notifications regularly anymore. I get a few random notifications of comments and postings and then one huge dump of the rest (randomly chosen as far as I can tell) every 36 hours.
I laughed at the security violations that prompted this posting. They are the least of my problems in life right now. The only thing I do secretly on LJ is engage in questionable taste now and again. I can live with that being accidentally spilled to a perfect stranger that I will never see or speak to and who knows no one I know. But a lot of the other LJ malfunctions are annoying as hell to me. I also have a paid account and do not like the DW set-up--I have not found it welcoming either--quite the contrary, not to mention that I keep in touch with so many people on LJ.
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Date: 2011-10-28 10:34 pm (UTC)Ich hab nicht einmal ein Foto drin.
Und mir gefällt eigentlich immernoch nicht. Ich schau immer rein, wenn unsere Facebook-Administratorin wieder was auf die Vereins-Seite gesetzt hat und das wars dann.
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Date: 2011-10-28 10:34 pm (UTC)Ich habe auch immer gesagt, ich gehe erst wenn mindestens 90% meines Netzwerks hier abgewandert ist und das ist bisher nicht der Fall. Ein paar Leute sind hier und da weggefallen, aber das waren auch dann Onlinebekanntschaften, die nie so wirklich tief gingen. Alle, bei denen es mir wichtig ist, sind noch da, und das reicht mir um hierzubleiben. Die Zeiten wo ich jeden gefriendet habe und alle 5 Minuten irgendwo gepostet habe sind sowieso vorbei und dass es hier ruhiger wird, finde ich nicht unbedingt ein Nachteil.
Insanejournal scheint den Weg alles Irdischen gegangen zu sein und bei Dreamwidth stößt mir ihre "wir sind ja so tolerant, wir pupsen Regenbögen"-Politik genauso auf, wie dir. Sie sagen, sie heißen jeden willkommen, was ich nicht unbedingt als positiv sehe. Mit Soulbondern, Objektfetischisten und Babyfurs möchte ich mich nämlich nicht auf Augenhöhe herumschlagen müssen.
Meine Aktivität hat sich lustigerweise mehr auf Facebook verlagert, was ich eine Weile gar nicht leiden konnte. Auf G+ sind weiterhin einfach zu wenig Leute, obwohl es mir rein technisch von allen Sachen am besten gefällt.
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Date: 2011-10-28 11:40 pm (UTC)It is very frustrating, to the point where I'm not using DW except to check on the couple of people who only post there. I can't even get the site's main page to load. I'm sorry someone else is having trouble.
(Nope. I will say that they're very fast on updating about downtime and major issues, but my experiance about bugs… Not so much.)
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Date: 2011-10-29 02:02 am (UTC)I'm staying here, though. I don't have Dreamwidth or Facebook, and don't intend to get them. I'm sad when friends leave, but I'm not going to chase people all over the Net.
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Date: 2011-10-29 10:17 am (UTC)I did the chasing thing during the first "Leave LJ!" waves. Which is why by now I am tired and cynical, I'm sure!
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Date: 2011-10-29 11:11 pm (UTC)Oh, DW finally let me log in. Of course I had to use IE to do it. rrr