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Why do so many "medieval banquets" sport dishes with potatoes?

They didn't have potatoes in the Middle Ages as far as I remember (not that I was there in person, but.). Everybody learns that we didn't get potatoes before, you know, the final discovery of America, where them taters come from. And even then they weren't eaten for a long time but rather cultivated for their pretty flowers.

Yet pretty much every "medieval banquet" I've ever attended or read the menu of contains potatoes (usually baked).

It's not like I care, because I'm playing more in fantasy than in history settings. But why is the baked potato so widely spread in so-called medieval banquets when basically everybody knows it wouldn't have been there? It's not like you couldn't put beans or bread or, most realistically, gruel on the table so people get their carbohydrates, no?

It does make me wonder.

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Wieso eigentlich enthalten so viele sogenannte Rittermahle Kartoffelgerichte?

Sie hatten im Mittelalter doch noch gar keine Kartoffeln, wenn ich mich recht entsinne (also jetzt nicht aus persönlicher Erfahrung, gell, aber ihr wisst, was ich meine). Wir haben doch alle gelernt, dass es in Europa erst nach der endgültigen Entdeckung Amerikas Kartoffeln gab, weil die Dinger da nun mal herkommen. Und selbst als man sie dann kannte, hat man sie lang nicht gegessen, sondern erst mal nur der hübschen Blüten wegen angebaut.

Und trotzdem hat bisher fast jedes "Mittelaltermahl", bei dem ich war oder von dem ich den Speiseplan gesehen habe, Kartoffeln enthalten. Meistens Ofenkartoffeln, manchmal Kartoffelklöße.

Es ist ja nicht, als würde es mir was ausmachen, ich mag Kartoffeln und spiele ja selber eh eher Fantasy als Historie. Aber wieso ist die Ofenkartoffel offenbar so eng mit der Idee "Mittelalter" verbunden, wenn doch eigentlich jedem klar ist, dass es sie da gar nicht gab? Es ist ja nicht so, als ob man nicht Bohnen, Brot oder Brei servieren könnte, um den Leuten ihre Kohlehydrate zu geben, oder?


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Date: 2008-02-22 12:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rahja.livejournal.com
Du hast natürlich recht. Das geile ist, dass ich mir bisher darüber noch keine Gedanken gemacht hab. Mh.

Date: 2008-02-22 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirien.livejournal.com
This is one of my pet piques! I used to get asked that question so often when I was doing Wars of the Roses living history. People would peer into the cauldron and look at the food we were preparing and ask where the potatoes were...and then flatly refuse to believe they didn't have them then *teeth grind* We ate pottage and lots of it,
just like in the 15th century!

Date: 2008-02-22 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arwensommer.livejournal.com
Perhaps we have the painters of the ca. 17th/18th century to thank for that? You know, paintings like "The potato eaters"?

Date: 2008-02-22 02:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] oloriel.livejournal.com
Frankly I am not too sure some of the organisers of such banquets would even know paintings like that. With some I suspect they just take potatoes because they're easy to cook and feel romantic. ;)

Date: 2008-02-22 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arwensommer.livejournal.com
... An inherently poisonous root? Romantic? ... Well, I guess? In a "Romeo and Juliet" sort of way? ;)

Date: 2008-02-23 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iskandra.livejournal.com
Bah. There are so many native sources of carbohydrates you could use....turnips.... (NO BLACKADDER JOKES PLEASE!) ...or my fave, parsnips, they taste a lot like taters.

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