Words. Words. Words.
Aug. 7th, 2004 03:02 pmI know that most people cannot understand my deep love for words, and my deep conviction that it is at all important what words mean, meant or are supposed to mean, where words came from and what can be concluded from their origin. I know most people consider linguistics boring and writing style trivial, and I know that especially the internet is for many people a place where you can write just the way you want where there is no need to make sure that the readers understand what is meant. I'm not even talking about USING CAPS LOCK ALL THE TIME, using exaggerated amounts of exclamation marks!!! or ignoring all teh rulz of orthography, but about plain old making your meaning clear.
Words, me hearties, have power. Words have power in themselves, but they have even more power in application between people. Words can manipulate people. Words can mislead people.
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Dear Wolvie,
This is a bad way to word a post in which you wish to convince one group of people to welcome another group of people to a meeting of the firstmentioned group of people:
"Um well, how can I break this to you???? Soooo, some of my colleagues think that the idea of having a party in a castle is great, but they can't come the whole weekend so they had the brilliant idea to come over with some crates of beer on Saturday to party with us!!! Should I dissuade them or would it be ok??? I warned them that they'd have to sleep in their cars or with air matresses and sleeping-bags in the main hall!!!! I'd like to add that this wasn't my idea!!!!"
In the best of cases, everyone will say something in the line of "Well, ok, but are you sure they'll be able to deal with a bunch of geeks like us?" or "Well sure, but wouldn't it make more sense if they slept in the huts and paid for that one night?". Which is what they did. Which is extremely positive considering that your post sounded like even you didn't like the idea very much.
(And you got hesitant encouragement, after all. For the sake of completeness, I should add that you could also have received answers like "I don't think it would never work, so I'd rather not have them". Because, you know, even if your colleagues are really nice people, many nice people who would like partying in a castle still would not like partying in a castle full of dressed-up geeks talking fantasy. It might have resulted in an awkward evening both for us and for them.)
I think I'm not going to far when I say that no one was able to understand that post as
"Guys, I've got great news! I found some more people who want to come along to Veldenz! They're four of my colleagues, and they're all really nice. I've shown them photos of the last meetings, and they said at once they'd love to be there too - they even plan to get costumes for it! Unfortunately, they can't come all weekend; but they'd like to come over on Saturday with some beer to party along. They're even willing to sleep in their cars, or bring sleeping-bags to spend the night in the main hall. I think they'd be a great addition to our group. So, what do you say?"
That would not only have made clear that you want them to come; it would also have made clear that it's at least likely they'll actually have fun among geeks like us, and that it would be great to have them there.
Maybe you think we should all trust you enough to know that you'd never ask us to welcome people who wouldn't fit in. But, you know, just for the sake of clarity, it would have helped to make us know they'd fit in. Because, as far as I know, none of us are clairvoyant. Some of us are mistrustful anyway. And the few of us who try to pick up the meaning behind the post would have been completely misled by your choice of words. I know that's bound to happen on the internet where you can't see people's mimics and gestures and can't hear their tone of voice, which is why it's bullshit to think that language matters less on the internet. Where written language is the only means to communicate, every damn word counts. I know that because I keep sending misleading signals and getting into trouble for it. It happens. To everyone. But if it happens, understand that no one wants to misunderstand you.
And, for fuck's sake, IF people reply with hesitant encouragement, I don't know why you think we mean "We don't want to meet your friends and we don't want to meet you either." I also don't understand why you think the only wise move is to tell us NOW how great these people are and that they already were looking for costumes and that they were only four, anyway and that you told them we are all elitary assholes who don't want them and you didn't know we'd need clearance certificates for them and you won't come to Veldenz now, either.
Reconsider?
Sincerely,
Lyra who admittedly is a linguistic smart ass but knows why, and who also likes you and would be very sad if a stupid misunderstanding like this would mean The Breaking of the Fellowship, Episode III.
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Really. I don't know what it is. I belong to two groups of crazy LOTR fans. The one is the ancient Elbenwald fellowship, which met first in September 2001 (yes, BEFORE the first film, and, for that matter, BEFORE 9/11, but we've got nothing to do with that.) and got its own forum and still meets a few times a year. Strangely, there has never been any drama that threatened to completely destroy the group and rip friendships apart in those almost three years.
The second one is the North Rhine-Westphalian fellowship, which I entered into in April 2003, which got its own forum and still meets a few times a year. Since then, there have been TWO MAJOR DRAMAS (and there was at least one before that), and this threatens to be the THIRD. In one and a half years. You know. Just because of stupidly chosen words. Mark ye, words have power. Think about that, and think about them carefully.
I should consider becoming a teacher after all.
If I weren't so impatient, and so afraid of talking in front of people.
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( Worte. Worte. Worte. )
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Words, me hearties, have power. Words have power in themselves, but they have even more power in application between people. Words can manipulate people. Words can mislead people.
...
Dear Wolvie,
This is a bad way to word a post in which you wish to convince one group of people to welcome another group of people to a meeting of the firstmentioned group of people:
"Um well, how can I break this to you???? Soooo, some of my colleagues think that the idea of having a party in a castle is great, but they can't come the whole weekend so they had the brilliant idea to come over with some crates of beer on Saturday to party with us!!! Should I dissuade them or would it be ok??? I warned them that they'd have to sleep in their cars or with air matresses and sleeping-bags in the main hall!!!! I'd like to add that this wasn't my idea!!!!"
In the best of cases, everyone will say something in the line of "Well, ok, but are you sure they'll be able to deal with a bunch of geeks like us?" or "Well sure, but wouldn't it make more sense if they slept in the huts and paid for that one night?". Which is what they did. Which is extremely positive considering that your post sounded like even you didn't like the idea very much.
(And you got hesitant encouragement, after all. For the sake of completeness, I should add that you could also have received answers like "I don't think it would never work, so I'd rather not have them". Because, you know, even if your colleagues are really nice people, many nice people who would like partying in a castle still would not like partying in a castle full of dressed-up geeks talking fantasy. It might have resulted in an awkward evening both for us and for them.)
I think I'm not going to far when I say that no one was able to understand that post as
"Guys, I've got great news! I found some more people who want to come along to Veldenz! They're four of my colleagues, and they're all really nice. I've shown them photos of the last meetings, and they said at once they'd love to be there too - they even plan to get costumes for it! Unfortunately, they can't come all weekend; but they'd like to come over on Saturday with some beer to party along. They're even willing to sleep in their cars, or bring sleeping-bags to spend the night in the main hall. I think they'd be a great addition to our group. So, what do you say?"
That would not only have made clear that you want them to come; it would also have made clear that it's at least likely they'll actually have fun among geeks like us, and that it would be great to have them there.
Maybe you think we should all trust you enough to know that you'd never ask us to welcome people who wouldn't fit in. But, you know, just for the sake of clarity, it would have helped to make us know they'd fit in. Because, as far as I know, none of us are clairvoyant. Some of us are mistrustful anyway. And the few of us who try to pick up the meaning behind the post would have been completely misled by your choice of words. I know that's bound to happen on the internet where you can't see people's mimics and gestures and can't hear their tone of voice, which is why it's bullshit to think that language matters less on the internet. Where written language is the only means to communicate, every damn word counts. I know that because I keep sending misleading signals and getting into trouble for it. It happens. To everyone. But if it happens, understand that no one wants to misunderstand you.
And, for fuck's sake, IF people reply with hesitant encouragement, I don't know why you think we mean "We don't want to meet your friends and we don't want to meet you either." I also don't understand why you think the only wise move is to tell us NOW how great these people are and that they already were looking for costumes and that they were only four, anyway and that you told them we are all elitary assholes who don't want them and you didn't know we'd need clearance certificates for them and you won't come to Veldenz now, either.
Reconsider?
Sincerely,
Lyra who admittedly is a linguistic smart ass but knows why, and who also likes you and would be very sad if a stupid misunderstanding like this would mean The Breaking of the Fellowship, Episode III.
...
Really. I don't know what it is. I belong to two groups of crazy LOTR fans. The one is the ancient Elbenwald fellowship, which met first in September 2001 (yes, BEFORE the first film, and, for that matter, BEFORE 9/11, but we've got nothing to do with that.) and got its own forum and still meets a few times a year. Strangely, there has never been any drama that threatened to completely destroy the group and rip friendships apart in those almost three years.
The second one is the North Rhine-Westphalian fellowship, which I entered into in April 2003, which got its own forum and still meets a few times a year. Since then, there have been TWO MAJOR DRAMAS (and there was at least one before that), and this threatens to be the THIRD. In one and a half years. You know. Just because of stupidly chosen words. Mark ye, words have power. Think about that, and think about them carefully.
I should consider becoming a teacher after all.
If I weren't so impatient, and so afraid of talking in front of people.
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( Worte. Worte. Worte. )
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